Debunking the Post and Email December 3, 2009
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The Post and Email ‘reports’
However, the Department of Health has never corroborated the authenticity of the document. Rather, in an email to the publisher of The Right Side of Life website, Okubo admitted that the Hawaii Department of Health had no documents on file to establish that any such COLB was issued by them in 2007, even though the online COLB bears a 2007 seal.
This myth appears to be based on a misunderstanding
Your Turn: Can’t understand the complacency on Obama birth November 8, 2009
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The ContraCostaTimes.com has a guest commentary by Mike Postich
The only document he has made available is a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth. This abbreviated form does not indicate the hospital where Obama was born, nor does it include the name of the attending physician or midwife. There is no official signature of any kind verifying its accuracy.
And yet, the document does not only have the raised seal but photographs reveal that the document is signed as well. Furthermore, the Department of Health in Hawaii has confirmed that Obama was born in Honolulu.
The form also has a revision date of November 2001 and is computer generated, which clearly demonstrates that it is not the original document of his birth.
What part of certification of live birth, which is prima facie evidence does Mike not understand?
Why is Mike refusing to acknowledge that the COLB is the official and only Birth Certificate of the State of Hawaii and that the document shows Obama born in Honolulu?
Obama lived here – Sommerville MA November 3, 2009
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Our Friends at Politijab.com have tracked down some interesting information…
Barack Obama attended Harvard Law School in Cambridge from 1988 to 1991. While in school in Cambridge Obama rented an apartment – a “garden level” unit as real estate agents often call them – at 365 Broadway in Somerville on Winter Hill.
As soon as I heard that Barack Obama had rented on Broadway I figured it was this building. It’s a very distinctive brick rowhouse complex built in 1889 called Langmaid Terrace.
Source: Centers and Squares
Now why do we care?
Susan Daniels v Susan Daniels November 2, 2009
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Orly has posted a letter from Susan Daniels to Judge Carter and our friend at Politijab.com noticed some peculiarities.
From Licensed investigator Susan Daniels to judge Carter
Posted on | November 2, 2009
Orly,
This letter is going out in tomorrows mail.
The Honorable Judge David O. Carter
Ronald Reagan Federal Building and U. S. Courthouse
411 West 4th Street
Santa Ana, CA 92701-4516Dear Judge Carter:I am the private investigator who contacted Dr. Orly Taitz when I found that Barack Obama has been using a bogus social security number for years, which is a felony. I have been a licensed investigator for almost fifteen years and recognized it immediately as fraudulent.If you had allowed Discovery and required the SSA to release his alleged application for that number (and I do not believe such an application exists), you would have realized it, too. Numbers are issued to a person in the state where they are living. Between 1977-79 when it was issued, he was living in Hawaii not Connecticut.
I now realize that you always intended to dismiss the case, because that’s what you were ordered to do. You have bartered your integrity for a lofty position and a hefty pension. Shame on you.
The men and and women in the military will continue to die under the direction of someone who is not entitled to hold the position of Commander in Chief and who is nothing more than a Chicago thug with questionable loyalties.
Semper Fi? I think not.
Imagine my surprise when a search on the problems with multiple social security numbers revealed an article written by
http://www.confidentialresource.com/?s=susan+daniels
Subjects with Multiple SSN’sPublished by Richard McEachinon July 9, 2008 in Identity Fraud, Identity Theft and Private Investigator.
In Canada, it is rare to find somebody with two Social Insurance Numbers (SIN). Where this happens it may be a case of clerical error or a reference to a former SIN appropriated by an identity thief. The former reason is extremely rare. In thirty years I have only encountered this once. The Canadian SIN is used as an identifier less than the SSN is in the USA.
However, in the USA the case is somewhat different. According to Susan Daniels, of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. in Chardon Ohio, when searching through database aggregators such as IRB, it is common to find a subject referenced with two or three Social Security Numbers (SSN). Here are some of the reasons a person may show-up with multiple SSN’s:
•a wife’s or child’s SSN could end up with father’s name
•a parent’s SSN could show up with a child
•the subject bought something with someone else and the SSNs could end up with each other’s name
•the database producer is relating several SSN’s to one address
•an error by whoever entered the dataSusan Daniels of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. (9754 Thwing Road Chardon, OH 44024, Tel.:xxx.xxx.xxxx) has been a Private Investigator for 15 years.
Update: Since this was published, Susan Daniels has stated that she did not write the article quoted above and that she stands behind her letter to Judge Carter
Who is the 119 year old person? October 12, 2009
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Sankey’s list helps understand, it’s most likely a faulty coded entry, the name of the Person is Barack Hussein Obama, with an address known to a Barack Hussein Obama, born on August 4, 1961.
What a crock…
Name – OBAMA, BARACK HUSSEIN
Gender – Male
Street Address – 365 BROADWAY APT B1
City, State, Zip – SOMERVILLE MA 02145-2440
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 042-68-xxxx
Age – 119
Date of Birth – 1890
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified -
Name – OBAMA, BARACK H
Gender – Male
Street Address – 365 BROADWAY APT B1
City, State, Zip – SOMERVILLE MA 02145-2440
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 042-68-xxxx
Age – 47
Date of Birth – Aug 04, 1961
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified -
The DNC and the Certification of Obama September 16, 2009
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Ballot Access reports
A former official of the Democratic Party kindly telephoned Ballot Access News to explain why the party’s national convention officials sent a different version of the national convention nominee certification form to Hawaii than to the other states. As noted earlier, the Democratic certification to Hawaii says the nominees for President and Vice-President are constitutionally qualified, and the certifications to the other states didn’t contain that language.
As I expected, the document reflects the State requirements.
Democrats sent a different version of their Hawaii certificate because Hawaii election law, section 11-113(c)(1), says that officials of a ballot-qualified party must file a sworn application with the names and addresses of the presidential and vice-presidential nominees, and a statement that each candidate is legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution. Section 11-113(c)(1)(C) also requires a statement that the candidates are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and the national party. Therefore, it is plausible that the Hawaii law only applies to the state party officials, not the national party officials. But the law is ambiguous, and the Democratic national convention officers felt it was best to be cautious and assume the law applies to the national certification form. Therefore, after the 2008 Democratic national convention, the party prepared one particular type of form for Hawaii, and a simpler, shorter form for the other states.
We still do not know when the policy of sending a different document to Hawaii was initiated.
President Obama – Executive Order 13489 Presidential Records September 12, 2009
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One of the first actions of President Obama was to sign executive order 13489 to revoke former President Bush’s Executive Order 13233 which severely limited access to Presidential records. We learn for instance that
The language in the Obama executive order is similar to Executive Order 12667 issued by President Reagan in 1989 which was also in effect during the presidencies of George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. The Reagan executive order was revoked when President Bush issued EO 13233 in November 2001.
The Obama executive order restores the presumption that the incumbent president, not former presidents, their heirs or designees should be the one asserting claims of executive privilege. The executive order states that only “living” former Presidents can make claims of executive privilege. This removed one of the most egregious sections of the Bush EO that allowed heirs or designees to make claims of executive privilege for an indefinite period after the death of a former President.
In addition, the provisions in the Bush EO allowing former vice presidents to assert executive privilege are gone. In fact, the Obama EO makes it clear that vice presidential records are to be included under the definition of “presidential records.”
Executive Order 13489 also restores the function of the Archivist of the United States’ as an independent arbiter of initial claims of executive privilege. The executive order assumes the Archivist may release records 30 days after notifying the incumbent and former Presidents unless a claim of executive privilege is made.
Pelosi, the DNC and the story of the two letters of Certification September 11, 2009
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Update: added South Dakota
Canada Free Press is making much of the discovery that Nancy Pelosi and the DNC, sent two kinds of letters to the States to certify the election as candidates for the presidency and vice-presidency. They claim that only one, the abridged form, was submitted to (all) the States, but we know that at least Hawaii, which has very specific requirements, received the “unabridged version”. Most of the documents come from lawsuits against the Secretary Of State of various states, but since much of the State Court filings are not available on Pacer, I have yet to track down various state case filings that may shed additional light on this issue. So far I have found filings in Hawaii, Texas, South Carolina and Washington which are relevant.
In fact, there appear not to be just 2 documents but perhaps as many as 50 documents, probably because every state would like an original, notarized document. The Washington State document and the South Carolina document are two different documents, as can be seen from the signatures.
A so the mystery becomes even less and less. There may very well have been 49 letters, and one, to deal with the special requirements of Hawaii. Then again, the RNC similarly had 50 separate letters to be sent to their state headquarters for filing.
The “long form” or “unabridged” version states:
THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution:Presented: Hawaii
the “abridged version” states:
THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democrat Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25 though 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively:Presented: South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Washington.
So how to explain the difference in text?
Simple really…
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Example Kenyan Certificate of Birth September 11, 2009
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So far all the certificates of birth I have seen from Kenya are in red ink. The raised seal is clearly visible in the bottom right corner. Note how the birth which took place in 1960 was registered in 1971. No clear example of dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy usage. I have another Certificate of Birth from 2008, which uses the dd/mm/yy format (29/9/08). The document is also in red ink and has a raised seal.
Second Kenyan Birth Certificate Surfaces September 10, 2009
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On the left, is a thumbnail (click to enlarge) of the second Kenyan Birth Certificate. This birth certificate was obtained by Lucas Smith on February 19, 2009 (note stamp in top left corner) and filed as part of the Keyes/Barnett v Obama lawsuit.
The birth certificate is reported to contain the following suspicious elements:
1. Mombassa, British Protectorate of Kenya
2. Missing full date of birth for Barack Sr
3. US style date format mm/dd/yy instead of the almost universally accepted format of dd/mm/yy.
4. Weight and length appear to be in a somewhat a-normal range
5. Name of the Hospital is Coast Province General Hospital
I hope to address all this below the fold
WND: YouTube Birth Certificate a forgery August 30, 2009
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WND Reports
The alleged Kenyan birth certificate offered by Lucas Smith and displayed last weekend on YouTube.com is not a valid document, a WND investigation has revealed.
Administrators at Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, the hospital named as President Obama supposed birth hospital in the document, have refused to authenticate the record when contacted by WND sources in Kenya.
The document appears to have the following defects:
The Kenyan 'seal' – a British coin? August 7, 2009
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South Australia Certified Copy of Registation of Birth – 1884 August 6, 2009
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Which one is the 'fake' BC? August 5, 2009
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There are some rumors that the Kenyan Birth Certificate is the real one and that the Australian one was forged to make the Kenyan one appear to be fake.
Koyaan at Politijab.com found the following
and noted that this section was missing on the Kenyan one
So what would be more likely? That the Bomford form inserted a non-existing entry on the Kenyan form or that the Kenyan form dropped the entry?
Orly Taitz Responds: Kenya Birth Certificate August 4, 2009
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The following was found on Orly Taitz website which is still being identified as a potential trouble website by my browsers
Debunking Obama’s thugs in the media
Recently Obama’s thugs in main stream media came up with this Bomford report in order to stop my efforts in exposing and prosecuting Obama. Though typically I don’t have time to waste on each and every dumb obot, since it got to National TV and my children”s friends called my children, I’ll spend a few minutes to debunk the obots:
1. Kenya became an independant country in 1963, not 1964. The seal of Kenya was correct.
2. More then one person had certified copies of this document.
3. the document was not issued at birth, but rather was a certified copy obatained in1964, when Kenya became independent
4. The documents from that time would not show Zanzibar, but rather Kenya
5. Bomford report was created to try to discredit my efforts
6.lastly, I am not supposed to waste my time and money on this issue, Obama us the one who is supposed to provide evidence of legitimacy
7. Kenyan BC provides more info than the piece of garbage Obama posted on the n et, which doesn’t have the name of the hospital, name of the doctor or signatures.
8. Chioumi Fukino and Obama and all their Nazi Brown Shirts in the main stream media need to give it a rest and provide an original hospital BC and the corresponding big thick hospital Birthing file from the Kapiolani hospital. If they don’t have such a file, all of them need to resign immediately or they will be prosecuted for massive fraud and treason to this Nation. (in case you didn’t know, treason carries punishment of life in prison or death penalty).
Keyes v Obama – Doc 34 – MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate August 4, 2009
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SPECIAL MOTION FOR LEAVE TO CONDUCT PRE-RULE 26(f) DISCOVERY TO DEFENDANT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and CERTAIN NON-PARTY WITNESSES TO PERPETUATE TESTIMONY, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, and to TRANSMIT LETTERS ROGATORY PURSUANT to 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-(b)(2)
The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document. As should be apparent from the nature and content of the document, if authenticated, and shown to be genuine, the contents of this document will significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period necessary in this case, and might lead to an early resolution by settlement or transfer of these proceedings to the United States House of Representatives and Senate according the procedures outlined in the Constitution. It is also apparent (and hearsay evidence available to Plaintiffs’ counsel aggravates her concerns) that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America.
It would appear to the undersigned counsel that either 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2) or 28 U.S.C. §1782(b)(2) or some combination of these statutory authorizations outlines the procedures by which to transmit letters rogatory and other requests to the proper authorities abroad in Kenya and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
For two classes of evidence at issue here, namely all requests for relevant passport materials and other documents existing within the United States of America, as well as all requests to be made through diplomatic channels to foreign tribunals, Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the Secretary of State of the United States of America, and accordingly, Secretary Clinton is the first and primary proper target of letters rogatory to be submitted pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2).
FIRST, Plaintiffs pray that this court authorize Plaintiffs to issue a special subpoena for deposition duces tecum to Secretary HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON be cited to appear within 21 days pursuant to (or in the letter and spirit of) Rule 27 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (even though this action has been filed and served, many months will pass before the Rule 26(f) Conference can be held to plan for discovery among the parties). The purpose of Rule 27, even though designed for pre-filing discovery, is fulfilled and relevant here, in that some (above-noted) hearsay evidence exists that an individual involved in the examination of passport files at the United States Department of State relating to and involving certain 2008 Presidential candidates may have been killed in relation to such inquiry. Last year it was announced by former secretary of State Candoleeza Rice that there was tampering with the passport records of three major presidential candidates and it was
investigated by the inspector general. Lt. Querl Harris was one of the suspects in passport tampering scandal. Washington post has announced that he was cooperating with the FBI and shortly thereafter he was found dead, shot in the head, sitting in his parked car. This case remains open and unresolved. Under such circumstances, “perpetuation of evidence” becomes a more and more significant and time-sensitive issue.
SECOND, Plaintiffs pray that this court will send a request for letters rogatory pursuant to 28 U.S.C.§1781(a)(2) to Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and other relevant officers in the United States Department of State to issue and transmit letters rogatory through proper diplomatic channels to the following foreign offices of public record and vital statistics:
For the Republic of Kenya:
KENYA
The Principal Civil Registrar
Dept of Civil Registration
Office of the President
PO Box 49179
Nairobi
Kenya
Tel: 227461
And/or
Office of the Principal Registrar
Deputy Registrar
Births, Deaths, and Marriages for the
Coast Province of Kenya
(or its modern successor, equivalent jurisdiction) in and for
MOMBASA, KENYA
(formerly British East Africa)
and/or
KENYA HIGH COMMISSION
45 PORTLAND PLACE
LONDON W1B 1AS
TEL NO. 020 7636 2371
E-MAIL: INFO.UK@KENYAHIGHCOMMISSION.NET
INFO.UK@KENYAHIGHCOMMISSION.NET
HTTP://WWW.KENYAHIGHCOMMISSION.NET/
SEARCHCERTAPPFORMS.HTML
And/or
www.direct.gov.uk
General Register Office
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp
Certificate Services Section
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/
WhoiseligibleforaBritishpassport/DG_174145
General Register Office
PO Box 2
SOUTHPORT
PR8 2JD
Tel: +44 (0) 845 603 7788 (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday. Saturday 9am to 4pm).
THIRD and in the alternative, Plaintiffs pray that this court issue and transmit letters rogatory and requests directly to each of the above-and-foregoing listed foreign offices or agencies (or to the relevant tribunals with appropriate jurisdiction in the relevant countries) without the intervention or assistance of Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and/or other officers of the Department of State
and/or the Department of Justice of the United States of America. It is urgent that this request be prosecuted prior to the normal onset of discovery in this case, again, according to the general letter and spirit of Rule 27 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure regarding the perpetuation of testimony. There has never been a constitutional challenge to the identity and eligibility of a sitting President of the United States and so there are no direct precedents regarding this matter, but it is fairly safe to say that the potential consequences and fallout from this present filing being made public will be severe and significant, even though the undersigned counsel makes absolutely no pre-judgment or prediction regarding the actual authenticity of the document of which only a color copy taken by a camera at an odd angle, which is attached herein as Exhibit A.
PRAYER FOR RELIEF
For all of the above-and-foregoing reasons, Plaintiffs pray that this court will grant leave to the Plaintiffs to conduct the aforementioned special discovery immediately and prior to the normal Rule 26(f)
Conference, pursuant to Rule 27 and all or some subset of the procedures authorized in 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-1781(b)(2). Although the urgency of this request cannot be overstated, 21 days is the normal time for service of such a request as this under Rule 27 of the Federal Rules, and the undersigned counsel reminds the Court that she will be out of the United States from August 2, 2009, to August 24, 2009.
Respectfully submitted,
Saturday, August 1, 2009
Lughnasadh/LaLunasa
Keyes v Obama – The Filed Birth Certificate August 4, 2009
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There have been some rumors that the jpg published differed from the one Orly filed, which allegedly showed 44647 and KF Lavender. I downloaded the pacer file and it shows 44O47 (corrected) and EF Lavender.
David Bomford Speaks August 4, 2009
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Adelaide man caught up in bid to oust Obama
MARK COLVIN: An unsuspecting Adelaide public servant has found himself swept up in a conspiracy to oust the 44th President of the United States from office.
A movement known as the Birthers, which originated in California, is attempting to prove that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, therefore making him ineligible to be President.
In a bid to stake their claim they released what appeared to be a Kenyan birth certificate with Obama’s name on it.
Sceptics soon traced the bogus birth certificate and found it to be a forgery. The document turns out to have been based on the birth certificate of an Adelaide man called David Jeffrey Bomford.
Dina Rosendorff broke the news to him.
DINA ROSENDORFF: David Jeffrey Bomford’s language was a touch too colourful for radio when PM first contacted him with news his birth certificate had been used in a bid to oust Barack Obama.
Now that he’s come to terms with his unwitting involvement in an international conspiracy, he’s slightly more amused.
DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: (Laughs) That is ridiculous. Little old person in Adelaide, the President of the United States. I don’t know whether to laugh about it or not, be worried about it.
It is interesting someone from here being involved in a conspiracy – that is so funny.
Third Obama birth certificate appears in court August 2, 2009
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Dr C reports that Orly has filed a motion claiming that she has discovered another Birth Certificate for President Obama, this one from the Republic of Kenya
Hottest News (August 6, 2009): An unknown person or persons has/have posted 4 pictures which appear to show how the Kenyan BC was fabricated
Hotter News (August 6, 2009): WorldNet Daily has been changing its story
Hot News (August 2, 2009) : This is an Australian birth certificate which appears to have been used to create the ‘Kenyan one. Note that both have Book 44B page 5733 as the location of the actual birth certificate. One has Lavender the other one Levender. 44047 which so many saw as a clever joke is number 2 on the other one. But the overlap is stunning. It is clear that this certificate served as the template for the Kenyan on. For those who want to argue otherwise, the same document was found on the server in 2006 and is archived by the Wayback Machine. For a comparison of the original and the forgery see here
Update: Ron Polarik calls Kenya BC a forgery
Update: Orly on Brian Copeland KGO AM 810
Update: Washington Independent on some bizarre filings by Orly and two experts point out problems with Birth Certificate
Update: Not that I consider Karl Rove an expert on anything but he is on the record that “The Kenyan ‘Birth Certificate’ Is ‘Likely a Forgery’”
Update: Progressive Nation reports Disbarment of Orly Taitz Sought by California Bar which is a false report. A letter of complaint was sent in April to the Chief Trial Counsel of the State Bar of the State of California but so far no evidence of any action.
Update: Orly on MSNBC w Schuster (video)
David: Orly, ya gotta give me a second here.
Orly: Obama’s brown shirts in the media…
David: Name one. You’re making references to Nazi Germany to many of us who had relatives…
Tamron Hall: Orly, we’ve been fair and given you time…
Orly, cutting in… Tamron cuts her off, refusing to be interrupted:
Tamron: Let’s not go there.
Orly: All I hear from MSM is dumb insults…
Tamron: Ann Coulter?
Orly: Let me answer!!
Tamron: Karl Rove says it’s a forgery. Answer that or we’re done.
Orly: YOU will be done.
David: Orly, is it true that MSNBC offered you a car, and you refused because the driver had a Muslim sounding name?
Orly: No, it is not true. Blahblahblahblah….
Tamron: Orly, you’re repeating yourself… We’ve been patient… Thank you Orly… You don’t know HOW much patience we’ve offered you.
David: Wow.
Update: Salon on Birther leader Orly Taitz loses it, live on MSNBC
But in this case, I think this interview actually served a purpose, as Taitz did a fair amount of damage to her cause all by herself. Anyone who was on the fence and watched the interview could not possibly come away from it thinking she’s credible.
Update: Bob Campbell, founder of the so-called “American Grand Jury” comments
I certainly wish Orly well. She is a true Patriot. God Bless her!
On the dumb and dumber side are the Obats who are crying foul, whining and peeing in their pants. As I said in the posting, this STILL NEEDS AUTHENTICATION by Orly. So the Obats can just shut up until the final verdict is in but it is sure fun to watch them squirm!
I find it interesting that the Obats can ram a COLB document down our throats for over year and defend it till the cows come home. We post a simple document that looks and feels like the real thing and they go bonkers.
Oooh! I love the crap out of it. I really dislike the “liberal progressives” who hate our Country. I live for the day we can put their little baby Messiah in prison for treason, fraud and espionage. The jerk will deserve everthing that he gets — his racist wife and all the folks and Congress lying on behalf of Obama can join him.
God love the Patriots. We will never give up!
Update: Comparing the original and forgery
Update: David Bomford speaks out
Read here and see a low resolution picture of the document at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3583 (careful, I get a suspicious website warning when linking to OrlyTaitzEsq.com) so try the following link at SCRIBD
Update: It now appears that there is a second document; this one with a tear. According to Free Republic (The second one, with the “tear” was a poorly-processed picture done by a Freeper called Salamander.) Where did the tear come from? Ed: Note, it seems that while removing the background, it may have ‘leaked’ onto the document.
I will add more later. Note however the registrar’s name E.F. Lavender. Has anyone heard of Earth-Friendly Lavender detergent?
Update: Ed Hale now has apparently admitted that he had the document in his possession since September 2008 but he did not release it until recently through Orly while initially trying to get rid of it via the eBay ruse. He got it through someone by the name of “Shirley” who paid $1000 to get the document (which is weird given that it is a 1964 document).
Another irregularity is that the document is dated early 1964 while Kenya did not officially become a Republic in December 1964. So why does it say “The Republic of Kenya”. In fact the original Kenya Constitution of 1963, Kenya became independent in December 1963, does not use the term Republic of Kenya, just Kenya.
More indications of problems have surfaced
1. The document dated Feb 14, 1964 and had the designation Republic of Kenya. However that designation was not official until December 1964.
Comments: While the designation was not official until the end of 1964, it is possible that some official forms would have changed to the “Republic of Kenya” and use the old currency. The bigger question is: Why was a document requested in 1964? Some have suggested that it was related to the filings for divorce which happened in early 1964. If so, how did these documents end up with the birthers? As a commenter observes:
From Kenya’s independence in 1963 to December 1964 Kenya’s head of State was Queen Elizabeth II, represented by Governor-General Malcolm MacDonald, who resigned on 12 December 1964 when Kenya was proclaimed a republic. Jomo Kenyatta then took over as President and a new constitution went into effect. The name was then changed to reflect the new government structure.
2. It’s number 44 O 47 is a bit coincidental with 44th President Obama 47th President
Comment: This is either a humorous coincidence or it shows humor on the part of those who created this document
3. The name EF Lavender. Earth Friendly Lavender is a detergent
Comment: This seems to be a minor issue as the name E.F. Lavender is well within the realm of actual possibilities
4. Mombasa did not become part of Kenya until 1963. It used to be part of Zanzibar
Comment: Since we lack information as to how the power of transfer happened, it is uncertain as to the nature and status of children born in Mombasa, Zanzibar
5. The Coast General Hospital is actually called the Coast Provincial General Hospital
Comment: A minor issue. However:
Officials of Coast Province General Hospital reported that:
“We do not have computerized records going back to the 1960’s and can only sort through our archives by hand,” Dr. Christopher Mwanga, an administrator at the Mombasa hospital tells GLOBE. “We have searched for all the names of babies born on Aug. 4, 1961, and have not found the name of Barack Hussein Obama. That is all I can tell you.”
6. There are unconfirmed statements that women who would give birth in 1961 would go to the “Lady Grigg Maternity Hospital” which was later rolled into the Coast Provincial General hospital.
Comment: A minor issue
7. Obama’s father (born in 1936) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.
Comment: This appears to be a major problem.
8. it was called the “Central Nyanza District,” not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.
Comment: This appears to be a major problem.
The Kenya Births and Death Registration Act Cap 149, Commencement date: 1928-06-09
The Kenya stamps did not show Republic of Kenya until 1964
So, back to Kenya. The former protectorate first issued its own postage stamps on December 12, 1963, coinciding with its date of independence from the U.K. These stamps said “Kenya” on them. On December 12, 1964, Kenya issued some new stamps. According to the 1996 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue, Volume 1B, this 12/12/1964 series (5 stamps) was specifically produced to commemorate the “establishment of the Republic of Kenya” on that same date. These stamps in this 12/12/1964 series said “Republic of Kenya” on them, and they were the first (and last to my knowledge) Kenya stamp issues which specifically used the full “Republic of Kenya” name (subsequent issues just say “Kenya”), and it makes logical sense that they would say that, given the stated purpose of the stamp issue.
Sven Magnusson has ‘identified’ E.F. Lavender as someone who lived in 1893 in Bendigo Australia… Oops
Bendigo, 11th November, 1893. 10855
Companies Art 1800.
GREAT GRETA COAL COMPANY LIMITED.
NOTICE is hereby given that at a special meeting of the above-named company, hold at the office of Messrs. Pentland and Roberts, 467 Chan eery-lane, Melbourne, on Mon-
day, the 6th day of November, 1893, the following special resolutions were passed, viz.:—
1. That as the above-named company have ceased operations it is advisable that it be voluntary wound up.
2. That Charles Medcalf, of Victoria Buildings, Swaiiston-street, Melbourne, be appointed liquidator for the purpose of the said winding up.
WM. H. ROBERTS, Chairman.
Witness—E. F. Lavender, clerk to
Earlier Birth Certificate Ruses
Canadian Birth Certificate
Dr C reports
The original complaint in Berg v. Obama included a fake Canadian birth certificate (the one signed by Dudley Do Right).
Kenya Birth Certificate
And what about this one which was released recently as well? These false birth certificates keep popping up right and left…
As Free Republic notices
Finally, the security watermarking on the paper seems to be in German or perhaps Dutch… Yet this is a British Colony. Something’s not kosher. I can make out what seems to be “…KERHIET GOED DUT DIT ZALNUT VERANDIRES DIT IST GEEN GELDIG DOCUMENT VAN DE OVELHEID. DIT IS POLITIEKI COMMINTAAR HU IS VOURZITTER VOOR MINSTEN DREI EN EEN HALT VAN . . .” Could be South African Afrikaans?
In fact the IPTC markup data of the document reveals it to be a fake
NOTICE: This image is a work of parody and political commentary. It is not a genuine government document. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. A certified copy of his birth record is freely available online. If you thought this was Obama’s real birth certificate, a “smoking gun” proving he’s not a natural-born citizen, then congratulations. You are an idiot. I made this from scratch. It is completely fake, and no document from Kenya or the United Kingdom resembles it.Obama’s president, and will be for the next 3 1/2 to 7 1/2 years. Get used to it.
Hinzman v Canada – Criminal Responsibility for fighting in an illegal war July 15, 2009
Posted by Exploring the Natural Born Citizen Clause in Cook v Good, Lawful Orders, Myths.comments closed
In Cook v Good, Orly argues that Major Cook could be personally held responsible for ‘war crimes’ if he followed orders from an in-eligible president is contradicted in Hinzman v Canada
The Federal Court ruling (Canadian) was released on March 31, 2006:
vi) Individual Culpability for Crimes Against Peace[152] Article 1(F)(a) of the Refugee Convention excludes individuals from protection where there are serious reasons for considering that those individuals have committed crimes against peace, war crimes, or crimes against humanity. The applicants say that had he participated in the war in Iraq, Mr. Hinzman would have been complicit in a crime against peace, and would thus have been excluded from the protection of the Convention.
[153] A review of the jurisprudence in this area does not bear this out.
