Desperate times December 15, 2009
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Note: Does she really believe that the US AG is going to respond to her ultimatum? If not, what does she expect to do? Sue him?… As to reasons why Orly will fail read this posting on Newman v US or Andrade v Lauer where the Court found that
PS: Orly again failed to appropriately edit the SSN and I foolishly copied her work. Shame on me for not double checking Orly. I should know better.
Moreover, this court has stated that actions against public officials (as opposed to actions brought against officers of private corporations) can only be instituted by the Attorney General. See United States ex rel. Noel v. Carmody, supra, 148 F.2d at 685.
12.14.09. Via Certified Mail
Attn Mr. Eric Holder
United States Attorney General
950 Pennsylvania Ave NW
Washington DC 20530-0001 USA
Dear Mr. Holder,
On March 1st on behalf of my clients I have submitted to you a request to file Quo Warranto against Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. The request was filed due to following troubling facts:
Counting the Electoral Vote July 25, 2009
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What people seem to have forgotten is that in the 19th Century, Congress was faced with a very similar situation in the Election of President Hayes. We can observe how Congress approached matters in those days, their reasoning and the outcome. For instance, Congress considered a bill in which the title of the President Elect could be challenged in Court, either the Supreme Court, or the Circuit Court if the Supreme Court lacked original jurisdiction. Senators strongly opposed this and argued that having the outcome of the elections decided by the judiciary was counter to the idea of the Founders, that the title of President could only be addressed by Congress via the 12th Amendment (the 20th Amendment did not exist yet) and that once a President was elected, his election was to last 4 years, even if errors were made as the decision to elect a President would be final and irrevocable.
What history shows is that when Congress had to deal with a similar situation as to whether or not a duly elected President’s title could be tried. And they clearly show that
1. Congress is the final arbiter per 12th amendment and its decision is final, and irrevocable, even if later found to be in error.
2. There is no place for the judiciary to decide on Presidential election. This means that the use of Quo Warranto to try the title for Presidency is not provided for.
NY Times 1882- Reporting on Quo Warranto and trying the title of the President July 25, 2009
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The New York Times, on June 20, 1882, published an article explaining that an attempt by Congress to allow the title of the President to be tried by Quo Warranto had been defeated. Most relevant are the comments by Mr. Hewitt who “did not approve the bill, and he remarked that be was satisfied that no man installed in the office of President could be ousted before the expiration of his four years by any method except revolution”
ELECTING THE PRESIDENT
AN ELECTORAL COUNT BILL WHICH WAS PROMPTLY KILLED.
MR UPDEGRAFF’S -SUBSTITUTE FOR THE SENATE BILL-DEGRADING THE OFFICE BY MAKING IT A SUBJECT OF LITIGATION — THE SENATE BILL RECOMMITTED.
WASHINGTON, June 20.-The action taken by the House to-day shows that it will be difficult to frame an Electoral Count bill which will meet the approval of that body, and still more difficult to frame one that will be actepted by both House and Senate. The bill reported by Mr. Updegraff, from the select committee charged with the subject, which was published in full some time ago, was rejected by a vote of 93 to 100, and the bill which has passed the Senate failed to be advanced to its third reading, and was recommitted by an almost unanimous vote.
The part of Mr. Updegraff’s bill which aroused the strongest opposition was that which provided that the defeated candidate for the Presidency might appeal to the courts after the votes bad been counted and his opponent declared elected. The sections in question provided that the claimant might proceed bv quo warranto in the United States Circuit Court by filing complaint within 10 days after the declaration of his rival’s election. The defendant must answer and plead within 20 days, and the trial must begin within 30 days after the service of the summons. Provision was also made for appeal to the Supreme Court and for enforcement of judgment by a writ addressed to any Marshal.
Federal Quo Warranto – No applicable to the President July 13, 2009
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Time to visit the concept of Quo Warranto and its applicability to the President or Congress. Some rumors have started that Congress used Quo Warranto to remove Albert Gallatin as an elected Senator. Nothing is further from the truth. The discussions in Congress suggest that Quo Warranto does not apply to Constitutional Officers whose election, appointment and removal are explicitly described in the Constitution.
But first some Congressional words about Quo Warranto:
Mr Thurman: It seems to mo that these considerations abundantly show that the idea of contesting the office of Chief Magistrate of the United States in any court whatsoever is not to be entertained for a moment. I do not, therefore, agree with the Senator from Vermont that there can be any such contest. I do not think that the framers of the Constitution intended that the title of the persons declared in the joint assembly of the two houses to be President should remain in doubt for a single moment, but that, on the contrary, from the time he was declared to be elected all men should respect his title, for ho was declared elected pursuant to the Constitution of the country. There might be error in deciding who was elected; every body of men is liable to commit error; courts are liable to commit error as well as congresses; the decision may be in favor of the wrong man ; but the public safety and peace require that that decision, when once made, shall be final and irrevocable.
Mr. Frelinghuysen: It seems to me, Mr. President, that there is one idea which the Senator from Ohio has entirely omitted, which is conclusive upon this subject,; it certainly is to my mind. I think the twelfth article of the amendments to the Constitution settles who has jurisdiction over this question. It does not do so in express terms, but it does do so by necessary implication. It says that the President of the Senate is to open the certificates and the votes, which are then to be counted in the presence of the two houses. That by necessary implication to my mind gives the jurisdiction over this subject to the two houses; and if the Constitution does give it to them, we cannot by law give it to the judiciary of the country.
Source: United States congress, The presidential counts: a complete official record of the proceedings of Congress at the counting of the electoral votes in all the elections of president and vice-president of the United States; Publisher D. Appleton and company, 1877
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Orly v SCOTUS – Or why SCOTUS will deny Easterling July 4, 2009
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On Orly’s website we observe sloppy legal research when it is argued:
She asked if I am an ambassador and I told her that I am not and I don’t have to be. Constitution does not specify that the ambassadors have to be plaintiffs, which means that they can be defendants.”
If this clerk is going to be deciding which cases go forward or not, she should at least research the precedents of the court she is working for regarding the issue at hand. Orly is correct. Ambassadors and ministers do not have to be the plaintiffs:
Boers v. Preston, 111 U.S. 252 (1884)
The plaintiff below, Preston, was a citizen of that state, while the defendant was the consul at the port of New York for the Kingdoms of Norway and Sweden.
Does this person truly not understand the issue here? It’s the issue of Original Jurisdiction. Orly is trying to bypass the lower Courts by claiming that her case is one of original jurisdiction. For this an ambassador has to be party to the case. However, the Supreme Court does not hold exclusive jurisdiction and can refuse to hear the case until a lower court has done so. In the case cited above, it was NOT an original jurisdiction case as the quote provided clearly shows but rather a case which made its way to the Supreme Court through the Circuit Court of NY.
This action was brought in the Circuit Court of the United States for the Southern District of New York. The plaintiff below, Preston, was a citizen of that state, while the defendant was the consul at the port of New York for the Kingdoms of Norway and Sweden.
The case in fact explains
The constitutional grant of original jurisdiction to this Court of all cases affecting consuls, does not prevent Congress from conferring original jurisdiction, in such cases, also, upon the subordinate courts of the Union.
In other words, original jurisdiction of all cases affecting consuls does not mean that only the Supreme Court has Original Jurisdiction. Especially when Congress has conferred original jurisdiction upon the subordinate courts. In Orly’s case, which I believe is a Quo Warranto, Congress has established clearly what court holds original jurisdiction, and it is not the Supreme Court. Leo Donofrio explains. Adding ambassadors as witnesses is not going to help. See also 28 USC § 1351. Consuls, vice consuls, and members of a diplomatic mission as defendant which states
The district courts shall have original jurisdiction, exclusive of the courts of the States, of all civil actions and proceedings against—
(1) consuls or vice consuls of foreign states; or
(2) members of a mission or members of their families (as such terms are defined in section 2 of the Diplomatic Relations Act).
In other words, the original jurisdiction for a Quo Warranto is with the District Court of DC, and the original jurisdiction for cases involving ambassadors is the District Court of DC. What do you think is going to happen?
From Orly’s filing
Such application of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure is expressly authorized by Rule 17.2 of the Rules of this Court, and in regard to a matter which will attract unparalleled national and international scrutiny thereby to supervise the normally mundane and routine process of discovery under those Rules, including but not limited to granting motions to compel or other mandates for production of documents such as vital, statistical, and otherwise (normally) confidential records concerning or relating to Barack Hussein Obama which be served upon Ms. Hillary Clinton in her capacity as the Secretary of State, Mr. Robert Gates in his capacity as the Secretary of Defense, Ms. Linda Lingle in her capacity as the governor of Hawaii, His Excellency Peter N.R.O Ogengo, the right Honorable Ambassador of Kenya; H.E. the Right Honorable Sudjadnan Pamchadningrat in his capacity as Ambassador of Indonesia, H.E. the Right Honorable Sir Nigel Steinwald in his capacity as ambassador of Great Britain, H.E. the Right Honorable Hussein Haqqani in his capacity as Ambassador of Pakistan and Mr. Sergei Kislyak, Ambassador of the Russian Federation. All of these discovery actions will constitute mandates to persons over whom this Honorable Court may and in this extraordinary case ought to exercise its discretionary jurisdiction.
And that’s why in this case, as in the many other cases, the plaintiffs will fail to convince the Courts
More on original jurisdiction beyond the fold.
Oh the Follies: Orly filing Quo Warranto Proceedings in State Courts April 18, 2009
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Comment: Orly has figured out that Quo Warranto’s can also be filed in State Court. However, since President Obama is a Federal Officer, he cannot be compelled by Quo Warranto in State Courts. As such the State Attorney General cannot institute a Quo Warranto action in State Court and worse, the only valid Court for Federal Quo Warranto is the US District Court of DC. While she claims to have filed two additional Quo Warranto’s with Holder and Taylor, we all know how successful she has been in that area. It also seems that she has abandoned for all practical purposes here filing at the US Supreme Court. Failure upon failure upon failure…
New Line of Attack-State/National Guard Quo Warranto
April 18th, 2009
As I finally have a new blog, new home free of all the Obama thugs, I can finally launch a new line of attack, that got delayed by two weeks because of the blog problems. I am sending today Matthew Michael Edwards v Obama Quo Warranto to the Attorney General of Wyoming and Governor of Wyoming.
Comment: Translation: Obama thugs refer to incompetent supporters or former website owners who allowed Orly to post. I am amazed that Orly is launching a new line of attack while continuing to abandon her former attacks.
Orly – James v Obama – Part 2 March 30, 2009
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C. President elect’s Failures to Qualify
17. By public evidence, President Elect, Obama had failed to qualify:
18. A) By allegiance to Britain at birth via his alien colonial father, irreparably negating his being a “natural born citizen”;
Comment: Begging the question. In fact, as several early court cases and common law history have shown, the fact that one or more parents has some allegiance to another country, does not mean that a child born on US soil has the same allegiance. In fact, under allegiance of, is a term commonly misconstrued when all it means is that the child has to obey the laws of the country. This was added to exclude children from diplomats, who are born under diplomatic immunity, and children of invading military.
2008-03-29 – Orly Taizt – James v Obama – Part 1 March 29, 2009
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Comment: A fascinating collection of previously shown flawed claims, arguments and assertions. Not surprisingly they have still made it in the next filing of Orly. My prediction: As with Holder, the DOJ will ignore her and Orly will call for the resignation of yet another Federal Officer. This is a work in progress in which I intend to address all the claims made. As others, who are much more informed that I, have pointed out, Orly has filed a court case in DC without proper local representation. That’s going to be interesting to see. In addition, the document contains several spelling errors such as Vatall and errors of fact such as “fn. 192 Hollister v. Soetoro, 2d Cir. D.C. Cir. No. 1:08-cv-02254-JR, Motion to Dismiss Jan 26, 2009.” Contrary to the citation “Hollister was neither in the Second Circuit nor the District of Columbia Circuit”, it was in the US District Court for the District of Columbia. Sloppy researcha and proof-reading.
1No. _______________
In The
United States District Court, District of Columbia
In re
ALLEN C. JAMES, US Army, active duty
RAYMOND REFITT, Commander, Submarine, US Navy
HARRY RILEY, Colonel, US Army, Silver Star Recipient
ALLEN C. JAMES, US Army, active duty in Iraq
CHARLES E. MILLER, Lt. Col. US Air Force
TIMOTHY KENNEY, Citadel Instructor, US Marine Corps veteran, Virginia Army National Guard
RALPH JENKINS, Capt. Marine Corps
ERIC SWAFFORD, State Representative from Tennessee
CYNTHIA DAVIS, State Representative from Missouri
LARRY RAPPAPORT, State Representative from New Hampshire
Petitioners/Relators
v.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, II, a/k/a BARRY SOETORO, President, USA;
LINDA LINGLE, as Governor of the State of Hawai’i; &
HILLARY CLINTON, as Secretary of State, USA.
Respondents
Motion for Leave to File Writ of Quo Warranto on Barack Hussein Obama II, President of the U.S.A., and Writs of Mandamus on Hawai’i Governor Linda Lingle, to provide evidence, and on Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to provide and request evidence from the United Kingdom, and Republics of Kenya, Indonesia, and Pakistan.
Orly Taitz – Being ignored by the Supreme Court… March 26, 2009
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Comment: This is what happens to Orly when she does not get what she wants… Funny stuff. First asking for recusal now asking for Roberts’ resignation. Don’t forget that I predicted much of this. Although I underestimated Orly’s response.
This is to remind you that on 03.13.09. I have presented you with the motion for reconsideration in Lightfoot v Bowen, Quo Warranto in Easterling et al v Obama et al and a 164 page dossier of suspected illegal and criminal activity surrounding Mr. Obama and his supporters, that was written on 03.01.09 and sent on Attorney general Holder on 03.03.09. In front of 1200 students and faculty of the University of Moscow, Idaho you agreed to review those documents. This is a matter of National Security and National urgency and as of yet there was no response from you or Attorney General Holder, nor Robert Mueller, Director of FBI, that was copied on this dossier.
Comment: Did Roberts claim he would review the documents? I thought he said something along the lines of “I will have a look at them”?
Quo Warranto and challenging the Office of the President March 14, 2009
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It follows from this that if an election of President or the right of an individual to the office of President can be contested in a judicial court of the United States, that contest must be begun in one of the courts inferior to the Supreme Court, and can only reach that court by Congress conferring upon it appellate jurisdiction from the decision of the inferior court. And furthermore, it follows, as the inferior courts have no jurisdiction whatsoever except such as Congress may confer upon them by law, that whether they should have jurisdiction in such a case or not would depend wholly npou the will of Congress, and therefore it would be just as one Congress might decide or as another Congress might decide whether there should be this judicial contest at all. Was it intended that the title to the office of President of the United States should depend upon a contest in a court, which contest itself is wholly dependent upon the fluctuating opinions of Congress? One Congress might pass a law clothing the Supreme Court of the United States with power to entertain a quo warranto in such a contest, and just when that contest was at its height, and before any decision had been rendered upon it, the next Congress might repeal the law conferring the jurisdiction. Was any such thing as that ever intended by the framers of the Constitution? It seems to me not. It would be a very extraordinary constitution that would thus leave it to the fluctuating will of Congress whether or not if the first place there should be any judicial cognizance of the question at all, and if the next place that would allow Congress one day to provide for this judicial cognizance and the next day or the next week repeal the law that gave the court jurisdiction.
Orly Taitz – She did it March 14, 2009
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Orly Taitz reports that she managed to get Robert’s attention and delivered a box full of documents to his security people. While I have to admire the tenacity of Orly, her posting also reveals an aspect which I personally find troublesome. And no it is not the lack of legal support for her claims, and it is not the speculative nature of her assertions, no it is the following statement
Why are you afraid to speak up, to stand up for you constitution? Why are you afraid to tell this arrogant jerk from Africa and Indonesia- You need to go home, you cannot be a president and commander in chief because you are not a Natural born Citizen. To be a Natural born Citizen you have to have both parents as citizens. Your father was never a US citizen and you don’t qualify and you also spit us in the face by refusing to unseal your vital records. There is no proof that you are even a citizen. For all we know, you need to go back to Kenya and wait for your green card, and that after we try you for all the crimes perpetrated upon American citizens.
As I and others have already pointed out, there is no credible evidence that President Obama is an Usurper. In fact, since he is the de facto and likely also the de jure President of the United States, we cannot make claims that lack in supporting evidence.
Donofrio wrong on Elk v Wilkins and Wong Kim Ark March 13, 2009
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Leo Donofrio argues that Elk v Wilkins Judge Gray took a position in conflict with Wong Kim Ark, when in fact, in proper context, the inevitable conclusion is that the two cases are fully consistent and that Elk v Wilkins was limited to Indians. In addition, the suggestion that Wong Kim Ark limits its ruling to ‘permanently domiciled aliens’ is also poorly supported
US Supreme Court – Quo Warranto and Original Jurisdiction March 13, 2009
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Since Orly asked Scalia if he would accept Original Jurisdiction over a Quo Warranto writ if she were to include Hawaii. This is an obvious attempt to bring in Original Jurisdiction but fails because a state cannot be a party in a quo warranto suit against a federal office.
The principal extraordinary writs are mandamus, prohibition, habeas corpus and certiorari [1].
Marbury v Madison, 5 US (1 Cranch) 137 (1803) established that the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction does not authorize extraordinary writs by the Court, at least outside the narrow range of cases allocated to the Supreme Court’s original Jurisdiction by Article III. See Chapter 10, supra (discussing the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction over “cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers, and consuls and those in which a state shall be party”).
[1] These writs were previously known as prerogative writs and closely related with the King’s Bench. The prerogative writs included the writ of Quo Warranto but no Quo Warranto practice ever developed in the Supreme Court of the United States
Source: Supreme Court practice: for practice in the Supreme Court of the United States By Eugene Gressman, Bureau of National Affairs (Arlington, Va.) Published by BNA Books, 2007
no Quo Warranto to try the title of the President of the US March 6, 2009
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§ 468a. Writs of quo warranto in the District Courts. The better opinion is that the District Courts of the United States have original jurisdiction to grant the writ of quo warranto only when specifically authorized by statute; and that no writ of quo warranto can issue from them to try the title to the office of President of the United States. The District Courts of the United States have jurisdiction of all suits to recover possession of any office, except that of elector of President or Vice President, Representative in or Delegate to Congress, or member of a State legislature, authorized by law to be brought, wherein it appears that the sole question touching the title to such office arises out of the denial of the right to vote to any citizen offering to vote, on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude: Provided, That such jurisdiction shall extend only so far as to determine the rights of the parties to such office by reason of the denial of the right guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, and secured by any law, to enforce the right of citizens of the United States to vote in all the States.” * The Revised Statutes provide that “whenever any person holds office, except as a member of Congress or of some State legislature, contrary to the provisions of the third section of the fourteenth article of amendment of the Constitution, the district attorney for the district in which such person holds office shall proceed against him by writ of quo warranto, returnable to the Circuit or District Court of the United States in such district, and prosecute the same to the removal of such person from office..”8 This applied to persons disqualified from holding office by the Fourteenth Amendment, whose disabilities had not been removed.
Source: Roger Foster, Treatise on Federal Practice, Civil and Criminal, Including Practice in Bankruptcy, Admiralty, Patent Cases, Foreclosure of Railway Mortgages, Suits Upon Claims Against the United States: Proceedings Before the Interstate Commerce Commission and the Federal Trade Commission, Callaghan & company, 1921
Newman v US EX REL. FRIZZELL, 238 U. S. 537 (1915) March 5, 2009
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Full text at Justia
My quick reading is that the US Supreme Court rejected the Quo Warranto proceedings based on the ‘interested party’ clause.
“The language of the Code, supported by the history and policy of the law, sustains the proposition that one who has no interest except that which is common to every other member of the public is not entitled to use the name of the government in quo warranto proceedings.”
The Court also addresses ’statutory officers’ which are officers appointed by the President. As far as I understand, the United State President is not a ’statutory officer’ but rather a “constitutional officer’ who can only be removed through impeachment
The Constitution, Article II, Section 4:
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Donofrio and Apuzzo – Calling off the engagement March 5, 2009
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Donofrio reports on a change of plans
Mr. Apuzzo and I have decided it’s best he continue to focus solely on Kerchner v. Obama and that I will go forth on the new quo warranto case on my own.
I want to be clear that I have no interest in joining any of the other pending law suits regarding Presidential eligibility. My main goal is to complete my legal brief on quo warranto, forward it to AG Holder and US Attorney Taylor and pray one of them will see the wisdom of instituting a quo warranto action to settle this matter and clear or unclear Obama’s title once and for all. Should they not move forward on their own motion for the United States, the action should be resubmitted to them on behalf of as many plaintiffs as possible.
Where reason fails quantity cannot improve
Donofrio and Standing March 5, 2009
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Remember Donofrio’s comments?
SCOTUS has stated that the civil service laws might provide Quo Warranto standing to some plaintiffs. For example, SCOTUS case law and various Federal District and Court of Appeals cases, indicate that any Government employee who loses their job by RIF (reduction in force) employment termination might have standing to institute an action in Quo Warranto.
According to posters Bob and Expelliarmus at Obama Conspiracy the case involves: Andrade v. Lauer
Quo Warranto – HUSSEY V. SMITH, 99 U. S. 20 (1878) March 3, 2009
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An officer de facto is not a mere usurper, nor yet within the sanction of law, but one who, colore officii, claims and assumes to exercise official authority, is reputed to have it, and the community acquiesces accordingly. Wilcox v. Smith, 5 Wend. (N. Y.) 231; Gilliam v. Reddick, 4 Ired. (N. C.) L. 368; Brown v. Lunt, 37 Me. 423. Judicial as well as ministerial officers may be in this position. Freeman on Judgments, sect. 148. The acts of such officers are held to be valid because the public good requires it. The principle wrongs no one. A different rule would be a source of serious and lasting evils.
Quo Warranto – Failure of Incumbent to Qualify March 3, 2009
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319. Failure of Incumbent to Qualify.—Where an office exists under the law, and a person is elected or appointed to hold it and duly qualifies and enters on the discharge of his official duties, he is a de facto officer, and his acts are valid, though he may not possess all the necessary qualifications for the office. 8 It has been pointed out that the eligibility of an officer sometimes is as difficult of ascertainment as his actual election; and sound policy therefore requires that the public should be no more required to investigate the one than the other before according respect to his official position. For this reason ineligibility does not prevent one becoming a de facto officer if he has the requisite color of right to the office.14 These principles have been applied where a person elected to office has not resided within a given district the period of time required by law in order to qualify him for such office.16 A person may also be a de facto officer when the only defect in his title is due to his failure to perform some step required to perfect his legal right to the office, such as taking an oath,16 giving of a bond, or the like.17 But persons elected to office who have failed to qualify, or to assume in any way the functions of the office, are in no sense either officers de jure or de facto.18 And a .person who has received a valid appointment from a sheriff as his deputy and has entered upon the discharge of the duties of such deputy, but has failed to conform to the requirements of the statute by taking the oath of office, or filing his commission for record, ia likewise an officer de facto.19
8. See supra, par. 313. v. Gilbert, 64 N. H. 13, 5 Atl. 80, 10
9. Jewell v. Gilbert, 64 N. H. 13, 5 A. S. R. 357; Morford v. Territory, Atl. 80, 10 A. S. R. 357; Erwin v. Jer- 10 Okla. 741, 63 Pac. 958, 54 L.R.A. sey City, 60 N. J. L. 141, 37 Atl. 732, 516. 64″ A. S. R. 584; Dolan v. New York, 14. Note: 140 A. S. R. 175. 68 N. Y. 274, 23 Am. Rep. 168; In re 15. People v. Hecht, 105 Cal. 621, Radl, 86 W’is. 645, 57 N. W. 1105, 39 38 Pac. 941, 45 A. S. R. 96. 27 L.R.A. A. S. R. 918. 203. Note: 140 A. S. R. 173. 16. Plymouth v. Painter, 17 Conn.
10. Burke v. Elliott, 26 N. C. 355, 585, 44 Am. Dec. 574; Alabama, etc., 42 Am. Dec,. 142. R. Co. v. Bolding, 09 Miss. 255, 13
11. Malleit v. Uncle Sam Gold, etc., So. 844, 30 A. S. R. 541; Farmers’, Min. Co., 1 Nev. 188, 90 Am. Dec. 484. etc., Bank v. Chester, 6 Humph.
12. State v. Lewis, 107 N. C. 967, 12 (Tenn.) 458, 44 Am. Dec. 318; Weath- S. E. 457, 13 S. E. 247, 11 L.R.A. 105. ford v. State, 31 *lex. Crim. 530, 21 S.
13. St. Louis County Ct. v. Sparks, W. 251, 37 A. S. R. 828; Brown v. 10 Mo. 117. 45 Am. Dec. 355; Jewell State, 42 Tex. Crim. 417, 60 S. W.
Ruling Case Law: Quo Warranto March 3, 2009
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There are, however, many cases which hold that quo warranto cannot be maintained on the relation of a citizen and taxpayer who has no interest in the public office involved different from other citizens and taxpayers.7 An illuminating discussion of this subject is found in a decision of the United States supreme court, construing a statute which provided for the institution of proceedings in quo warranto for usurpation, first by the attorney-general or the district attorney on his own motion, or at the relation of a third person, by leave of court, and second that upon refusal of the attorney-general and district attorney after request by a person interested, such person might apply to the court for leave to proceed. The conclusion reached by the court was that the interest which will justify such a proceeding by a private individual must be more than that of a taxpayer. It must be an interest in the office itself, and peculiar to the applicant.8 Under either construction of the rule it would appear that the claimant of a public office has such an interest therein as to entitle him to proceed in quo warranto.9 Under one interpretation, therefore, it might well be that a relator would have a right as a citizen and taxpayer to proceed to redress the public wrong caused by the usurpation and likewise a right as opposing candidate to question the right to a public office. The nature of his private interest would not, however, bar him from his public action.10 But a defeated candidate would have no interest beyond that of any other citizen or taxpayer although the successful candidate might not be qualified or entitled to hold the office.11 In concluding this discussion it should be pointed out that the rules laid down are not applicable where the statute in express terms or by necessary implication provides that the information shall be made only by the proper prosecuting officer. They would apply, however, where the relator had the right to make application directly to the court,12 and possibly also in the cases in which the court has undertaken to review the discretion of the state’s attorney in mandamus.18
8. Newman v. United States, 238 U. 94 Am. Dee. 75. S. 537, 35 S. Ct. 881, 59 U. S. (L. ed.) Notes: 125 A. S. R. 640; 13 Ann. 1446, reversing 42 App. Cas. (D. C.) Cas. 1064. 78, Ann. Cas. 1915D 1146. 12. United States v. Newman, 42
9. State v. Harrison, 113 Ind. 434, App. Cas. (D. C.) 78, Ann. Cas. 16 N. E. 384, 3 A. S. R. 663; State v. 1915D 1146. Barker, 116 la. 96, 89 N. W. 204, 93 13. See infra, par. 31. A. S. R. 222, 57 L.R.A. 244; Taylor


