Birthers afraid of the facts?

Carl Gallup appeared on the show and Reality Check showed up to raise the findings outlined by me on this blog as to the Xerox workflow. The birthers quickly silenced Reality Check and then Carl responded by stating that ‘he knows Reality Check’ (around the 32 minute mark)

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The response went something like this:

I also want to say this: What Zullo and Arpaio are doing … blah blah .. is a certified, bonafide forensic criminal investigation that sworn affidavits have come out of this blah blah… We know about the Xerox issue and my only answer to him: that is of no concern. What I mean by that, all of that has been examined in details at a forensic criminal level. And it is of no concern.

In other words, Gallups has nothing… Instead he claims that we are involved in a disinformation campaign. But unless he can reject our findings, these are meaningless assertions. He is hiding behind the ‘criminal investigation’ claims which never stopped the CCP from releasing their information, and protects them, at the moment from having to address these embarrassing findings.

If my finding hold up, they will have to retract a lot of claims about the PDF being a forgery… Not much remains other than hearsay, and circumstantial speculations.

As the Judge observed in Grinols v Obama

Courts do not deal with what are just simply allegations. There has not been one credible allegation of a piece of evidence presented other than what is hearsay and people that quite frankly the plaintiffs believe are experts. Plaintiffs don’t determine who experts are, the court does. And not one person that has been presented to come forward has been shown even closely reassembling an expert. They are simply citizens who have their own opinion, which they are free to express, and I respect that opinion. But that does not mean that their, quote/unquote, evidence is admissible. The only admissible evidence is that which is under the rules of evidence. And at this point, the indication and the notification from secretary — or from Hawaii, let’s see, the director of the Hawaii State Department of Health has indicated and stated that the birth certificate of President Obama is accurate, is acceptable. That’s —
MS. TAITZ: You don’t have —
THE COURT: Stop. Do not speak. You’re done.

So expect nothing, Congress is not going to deal with it, there will be no criminal charges… An affidavit by private citizen Zullo is of no  relevance, the fact that at least one district attorney has refused to file charges based on the ‘evidence’ presented should have been an indicator. And that was before the PDF forgery arguments had been laid to rest.

32 thoughts on “Birthers afraid of the facts?

  1. RC said he and his Obots have completely open about producing their findings. That’s actually not true. NBC refuses to release his PDFs and the PDFs that have been released are lousy reproductions that don’t capture the elegance of Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF.

  2. Hope springs eternal in the human breast;
    Man never Is, but always To be blest:
    The soul, uneasy and confin’d from home,
    Rests and expatiates in a life to come.

    So in other words, the CCP should not review my findings because I did not follow John’s preferred path? That’s just hiding your head in the sand and hope it will all go away.

    So far John has been unable to reject any of my findings…

    And Zullo and others have not done much better… But surely, they are aware and eventually we may learn. But perhaps they do not want my findings to interfere with their hopes of a congressional investigation.

    That would be hilarious…

  3. Carl Gallup pointed out something interesting on the show yesterday. Obots have said that if the PDF was forged, why was it forged so badly. Gallup theorizes (He also said the Reed Hayes thought this as well) that the PDF that was released was actually a WORKING copy of the forgery. Because of the intense pressure of Donald Trump and Dr. Corsi’s new book, Where’s the Birth Certificate (At that time is was #1 on Amazon.) The White House was panic to release something. Once released, the White House never take the PDF back.

  4. Carl Gallup pointed out something interesting on the show yesterday. Obots have said that if the PDF was forged, why was it forged so badly. Gallup theorizes (He also said the Reed Hayes thought this as well) that the PDF that was released was actually a WORKING copy of the forgery.

    Nice and ad hoc indeed… But if it was a working copy, it was an incredibly poorly implemented copy that mimics all the artifacts found in a Xerox workflow.

    The DOH also verified the information found on the WH PDF, so we have an incredibly weak argument, that totally ignores my findings.

    Rather than a working copy, the ‘flaws’ are trivially explained by a xerox workflow. This is further supported by the AP document and the Guthrie photograph both of which shows absence of many of the artifacts found in the WH PDF

  5. John wrote:

    RC said he and his Obots have completely open about producing their findings. That’s actually not true. NBC refuses to release his PDFs and the PDFs that have been released are lousy reproductions that don’t capture the elegance of Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF.

    What? I have posted two PDF’s (and emailed them to you and Mike Volin). They are not “lousy reproductions”. They are as good as one can get by printing a file that has already been compressed and printed. They demonstrate all the artifacts that the CCP said were “proof of forgery” are indeed as a result of a simple work flow.

    Then John said:

    Carl Gallup pointed out something interesting on the show yesterday. Obots have said that if the PDF was forged, why was it forged so badly. Gallup theorizes (He also said the Reed Hayes thought this as well) that the PDF that was released was actually a WORKING copy of the forgery. Because of the intense pressure of Donald Trump and Dr. Corsi’s new book, Where’s the Birth Certificate (At that time is was #1 on Amazon.) The White House was panic to release something. Once released, the White House never take the PDF back.

    Wait a minute. You just said that Obama’s birth certificate was an “elegant” forgery. Which is it? I love how Birthers vacillate back and forth between a grand conspiracy involving multiple government agencies and a “crude amateurish forgery” depending on the context. I am still waiting for Gallups or Zullo to tell us the who, what, when, where and how of the forgery. We can answer every single one of those questions and you can’t answer even one. No one has ever built a similar PDF from scratch and explained why it would have been done that way.

  6. No one has ever built a similar PDF from scratch and explained why it would have been done that way.

    Polland tried and did not even get close.

  7. That show was funny. The host Ann was desperate to get rid of me. She called me a liar when I said that a Xerox Workcentre could produce layers in a PDF just like were seen int he LFBC PDF file. She said she “scanned from Xerox’s every day and they do not make layers”. Well maybe the model she uses doesn’t but she cannot claim that all models do not. We know from the Xerox patents and actual test scans that they most certainly do. I think by the end of my call Ann had stuck her fingers in her ears and chanting la la la la I can’t hear you.

    I have never seen a group of people so afraid of looking at evidence. It is pretty obvious that Zullo was completely blindsided by the Xerox work flow discoveries. Who could have though that that NBC and others could discover not only the manufacturer but the exact model that was used, the copy orientation and trip through Preview? Who could have suspected that Xerox would leave an innocuous comment tag that was almost like a fingerprint embedded in files it produced?

    Zullo’s problem was that he was relying exclusively upon “investigators” who were hopelessly handicapped by confirmation bias. They looked at only PC software compression solutions and home office type equipment that was small and available. They didn’t listen to contrary sources like John Woodman who offered to help. They dismissed critiques by “Obots” instead of openly addressing them. Now they are paying the piper.

    Now they seem to be betting the farm on Reed Hayes report. I have seen Reed Hayes CV and his work. I have no fear of him. He brings nothing to the table that tells me he knows anything about examining a PDF file. The fact that Zullo won’t release his report is a good indication of what he thinks of it.

  8. I have never seen a group of people so afraid of looking at evidence. It is pretty obvious that Zullo was completely blindsided by the Xerox work flow discoveries. Who could have though that that NBC and others could discover not only the manufacturer but the exact model that was used, the copy orientation and trip through Preview? Who could have suspected that Xerox would leave an innocuous comment tag that was almost like a fingerprint embedded in files it produced?

    Well, the fact is that we have done this and now it is up to them to either reject the findings, or drop them. Surely they would no longer continue to present them to Congressional members now that they have been shown to be doubtful…?

  9. @ John

    Why don’t you tells us what anomalies are not addressed in the files I sent you and what NBC has written about here. Then we can just work on those. As NBC has written the typography issue are not related to the PDF. I think they have been adequately addressed many times. So tell us what anomalies remain from Papit’s of Mara Zebest’s reports?

  10. Who knows, Zullo may have already scanned Miki and her friends original hard copy Hawaii birth certificate and found that have ressemblaance to Obama’s PDF.

  11. Yes, can NBC change the race of “Kenyan” or “Negro” to African?

    African is what Kenyans used…

  12. Who knows, Zullo may have already scanned Miki and her friends original hard copy Hawaii birth certificate and found that have ressemblaance to Obama’s PDF.

    They would have been touting it all over the internet…

    John is so desperate.

  13. Not according to the Obama Sr. immigration file. When Obama Sr. was fingerprinted at the University of Hawaii his race was noted. It was listed as “Kenya”. I would take that to mean “Kenyan’. In addition, nearly all Hawaii birth certificates that I have seen list the race from the country of origin not continent of origin.

  14. Not according to the Obama Sr. immigration file. When Obama Sr. was fingerprinted at the University of Hawaii his race was noted.

    Yes, we see the difference between self reporting and how others may note his race.

    Poor John…

  15. RC wrote: “Wait a minute. You just said that Obama’s birth certificate was an “elegant” forgery. Which is it? I love how Birthers vacillate back and forth between a grand conspiracy involving multiple government agencies and a “crude amateurish forgery” depending on the context.”

    As I’m sure you remember, RC, this is number 7 on “The Ten Key Characteristics of Nut-job Conspiracy Theorists.” To wit:

    7. Simultaneous contradictory beliefs.

    Nut-jobs often imagine at the same time and even in the same sentence that (for example) they are fighting forces which are both super-humanly brilliant and powerful … and completely incompetent.

  16. John wrote: “In addition, nearly all Hawaii birth certificates that I have seen list the race from the country of origin not continent of origin.”

    1. “Nearly all” is hardly an unqualified assertion.
    2. How many times must I show you this?

  17. John can’t think of a single anomaly that the Xerox research doesn’t answer about the PDF. That really narrows down what he can take to Rep. Yoyo as proof of forgery doesn’t it?

  18. I have a question – Does anyone know what Obama’s original birth certificate looks like in the DOH. Is it in color or back and white. We know Hawaii DOH uses the green safety paper but what would the birth certificate actually look like in the log back in terms of color and background?

  19. I think black on white is a good assumption. There are lots of clues to that effect if you are curious enough to investigate . I can recite them but I will leave it to you to figure it out.

  20. Why am I not surprised that Gallups and Zullo buy into the nonsense that I am a professor at UCONN? Gallups launched into a five minute tirade against the good professor then at the end says “but I do not mean to denigrate him”. So Gallups defamed a person he knows nothing about and has mistaken his identity but he wants us to trust him that they have thoroughly research the Xerox claims and can dismiss them.

    Clown is just the perfect word for them.

  21. It has layers but they are all 8-bit, there are no 1-bit masks.

    Fpr example:
    /BitsPerComponent 8
    /ColorSpace 141 0 R
    /Filter/FlateDecode
    /Height 81
    /Length 4626
    /Subtype/Image/Type/XObject
    /Width 480

  22. I looked at how the Xerox theory stacks up against the report written by Ivan Zatkovich right after the LFBC was released in 2011. It appears to be entirely consistent.

    That does not surprise me.

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