Box 6c side by side

Note how all these ‘strings’ appear to be of consistent length when compared the text of box 6c which reads:

Name of Hospital or Institution (If not in hospital or Institution, give street address)

Unless Hermitian wants to argue that all these documents have been forged, the conclusion is logical and inescapable.

Estimating original font size from documents can be quite complex as you need to understand what scaling steps may have been applied. The best way to compare is to compare with text that is consistent, such as the header in the boxes of the long form birth certificate. You can now do a relative comparison. I believe that my findings are strengthened by the pictures below

Looking forward to Hermitian’s response.

NBC: Click on pictures to go to the “originals”

WH Long Form PDF

WHLFBC

WH Long Form Birth Certificate AP

AP

EdithAh’nee BC

Edith

Nordyke

nordyke

Dr Conspiracy

Dr_c

17 thoughts on “Box 6c side by side

  1. Technically speaking Dr. Conspiracy’s composite BC is a “forgery”. If you wish to add another data point there is the Ah’nee BC that was posted at WND. When it was originally posted the hospital name was visible. Later the image was replaced with one that redacted the hospital name. Fortunately, I was able to capture the image that was originally posted and preserved it on my blog in this article: http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/jerome-corsi-paul-irey-and-lucas-smith-team-up-to-shoot-themselves-in-the-foot/

  2. Good point but our friend Hermitian placed so much hope on Dr C’s document that I found it helpful and educational for him to show this one as well. Yes you are right, technically speaking it is a forgery.. If we can get Dr C to answer what font size he used…

  3. NBC

    “Unless Hermitian wants to argue that all these documents have been forged, the conclusion is logical and inescapable.

    “Estimating original font size from documents can be quite complex as you need to understand what scaling steps may have been applied. The best way to compare is to compare with text that is consistent, such as the header in the boxes of the long form birth certificate. You can now do a relative comparison. I believe that my findings are strengthened by the pictures below

    “Looking forward to Hermitian’s response.”

    I will admit that it is difficult to analyze typed text on documents of poor quality. That’s why I posted my analysis of Kevin Davidson’s “RECONSTRUCTION”.

    Comparing your five examples above, Davidson’s forgery is the clearest and looks more like a typewritten document than do the other four. The Fogbow JPEG comes in second.

    However, the surprising fact is that the Davidson forgery is only 100 PPI x 100 PPI resolution
    I agree that its difficult if not impossible to analyze typed text on copies which are poor quality. That’s why I posted my analysis of Kevin Davidson’s “when the JPEG is placed as a bitmap onto a new artboard in Illustrator CC. Which proves that high resolution does not necessarily guarantee readability.

    It’s a fact that all of the many versions of the Obama LFCOLB are poor quality as compared to an original typed document. But then HDOH has buried the original in a safe within a safe. That is — if there is really is an original.

    The trend over the last 4-1/2 years is that many versions of progressively worse quality have been released. The Fogbow even released some B&W copies with a diamond pattern background. Obviously Obama and his legal minions are working their game plan.

  4. There is another birth certificate of Edith Pauline Coats from June 1962. I thought that is the one you were using. She was born at another hospital.

  5. I will admit that it is difficult to analyze typed text on documents of poor quality. That’s why I posted my analysis of Kevin Davidson’s “RECONSTRUCTION”.

    You still do not get it. Davidson’s font is argued by you to be 10 pitch and it aligns perfectly with the WH LFBC

    Which is thus also 10 pitch..

    This is not rocket science. Note how all these strings line up quite perfectly relative to the fixed background of box 6c

    Sigh…

  6. The trend over the last 4-1/2 years is that many versions of progressively worse quality have been released. The Fogbow even released some B&W copies with a diamond pattern background. Obviously Obama and his legal minions are working their game plan.

    Poor Hermitian, having failed miserably he now complains that there are others out there who have shown different examples of the LFBC.

    Sigh… His paranoid attitude helps explain his myopic view. Too bad that he failed to observe the tell tale signs and therefore reached so many flawed observations.

    Time to document them..

  7. Hermitian said

    The trend over the last 4-1/2 years is that many versions of progressively worse quality have been released. The Fogbow even released some B&W copies with a diamond pattern background. Obviously Obama and his legal minions are working their game plan.

    The Fogbow has not released any original birth certificate images. The one with the diamond pattern was an exhibit filed with an amicus brief by the Alabama Democratic Party in the McInish v Chapman appeal to the Alabama Supreme Court. The Alabama Supreme Court scanning software apparently caused the diamond pattern. I contacted attorney Barry Ragsdale who submitted the filing and he said they printed a color copy of the LFBC downloaded from the WhiteHouse.gov web site and that is what was submitted.

    You may be confused by the “Friends of TheFogbow.com” watermark that Jack Ryan applies to court documents that he publishes on Scribd. Jack began doing that because Birther Reports/ORYR was stealing Jack’s documents that he and other people had paid to download from PACER and was putting their own watermark on them.

  8. NBC

    I just noticed that the Ah’nee image you posted linked back to my blog. D’oh! I am glad I captured that before WND replaced it. I believe the reason they redacted the hospital name was that several folks left comments on the WND article that the Ah’nee certificate actually destroyed the myths like the one that the Obama birth certificate had the name of the hospital wrong and confirmed the Registrar’s signature. WND quickly posted a version that redacted those items.

    Corsi was still out there pushing the birth certificate number out of sequence myth when he had in his own possession a copy of Ah’nee’s certificate that ended than myth.

  9. Sigh.. Hermitian is now in the ‘blame the others phase’ for his foolishness.

    Fascinating…

    But how he cannot see the relevance of these pictures is beyond me…

  10. Looking at these side by side I just noticed something very significant that I had never noticed before. You might call it the “reverse smoking gun”. The Johanna Ah’nee certificate has proved to be so useful!

  11. @Hermitian

    As I mentioned in a previous comment the diamond pattern in the exhibit as posted in Alabama resulted from a normal workflow that one might expect. The ADP attorneys downloaded and printed a color copy of the WH LFBC PDF. They included that exhibit along with the rest of their brief that they filed with the Alabama Supreme Court. Somewhere in the process of scanning the document to the court server the background scanned incorrectly. Remember the purpose in life of security backgrounds is to be hard to copy.

    Now something similar happened in Mississippi only with even less dramatic results. In that case the copy that ended up on the court server was actually quite a good reproduction. Yet you in your zeal to claim something, anything was a forgery picked in obscure and explainable differences. Now we know a simple workflow was followed in both cases. You seem like a fairly intelligent fellow so I know you can understand what has been demonstrated. It is time to man up and admit that no chicanery was involved.

  12. Looking at these side by side I just noticed something very significant that I had never noticed before. You might call it the “reverse smoking gun”. The Johanna Ah’nee certificate has proved to be so useful!

    Staring at it right now… Vision is getting blurry… eyes are drying out…

    Nothing…

  13. I believe the Ah’Nee and the Obama birth certificates were typed with the same typewriter. Look at how the “i” in both is shifted to the left of where it should be as if the key was bent slightly to the left. Actually you can see the same pattern in the both Gretchen and Susan Nordyke’s certificates but it is harder to see because of the lower resolution of those images. You can see the shift in the “i’s”all four words in box 6.

    The same left shift of the “i” shows up in other boxes also like the word “Caucasian” on the Nordyke certificates in boxes 9 and 14. Look at the word “Caucasian” in box 14 on the Obama certificate. Also, look at the words “Private Practice” for Robert Nordyke’s industry in box 12b for both Susan and Gretchen’s certificates. You guessed it. The “i” is shifted left.

    A repeatable horizontal shift of a certain key is almost like a fingerprint on a typewriter. A vertical shift, especially on a capital letter is less significant because the placement of the letter depends on the timing of hitting the shift key to move the platen and striking the letter. You can see random vertical offsets of capital letters in both the Obama and Susan Nordyke certificates. I found some other patterns like this but the displaced “i” key looks pretty solid to me. I believe the same typewriter was used for all four certificates from Kapi’olani in August 1961.

    How did Paul Irey miss this? I think I now know why WND so quickly pulled down the original Ah’Nee certificate image.

  14. I believe the Ah’Nee and the Obama birth certificates were typed with the same typewriter.

    That was going to be my next posting … I realized that the Ahnee copy has the best resolution as well. Your observations are very important here… I was just going to show that Ah’nee and the LFBC used the same ‘font size’, an issue raised by LFBC that the font size does not matches… He forgot all about the possibility that the DOH of HI had reduced the original in size when copying…

  15. The reconstruction I did of a hypothetical birth certificate for President Obama used the Courier New 18 pt font for the hospital name. Some of the text is original from the “Alan” certificate that was used as the base for the reconstruction. “Male”, “Honolulu”, “Oahu” and “Honolulu, Hawaii” are “original.”

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